Comments for understanding the psychology of behavior http://echotoall.com/blog Disclaimer: the site is not popular enough to need one :) Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:54:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 Comment on I will NOT sell… by Administrator http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/10/10/i-will-not-sell/#comment-38215 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:11:08 +0000 http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/10/10/i-will-not-sell/#comment-38215 the rules never change, people only think they do. everytime investors think a new paradigm enters the gorilla quickly shows them the basic rules still apply... happened in 2000 (valuations matter), and is happening now (dont over leverage) Has the machine stopped moving? :) No question growth has fallen off a cliff, as alcoa earnings report clearly suggested, but the SP500 has fallen about 46% from intraday high (1575) to intraday low (839). Does it make sense for the market to react so abruptly over a short-term period of growth hickuping? The basic rules are being violated because of... 1. huge amount of uncertainty 2. forced selling 3. frozen credit markets All of which create huge discounts. But we can not ignore that stocks (as a piece of paper reflecting ownership of a company) has value. as far as fighting the gorilla is concerned... we are always fighting the gorilla... the machine is moving :) the rules never change, people only think they do.

everytime investors think a new paradigm enters the gorilla quickly shows them the basic rules still apply… happened in 2000 (valuations matter), and is happening now (dont over leverage)

Has the machine stopped moving? :) No question growth has fallen off a cliff, as alcoa earnings report clearly suggested, but the SP500 has fallen about 46% from intraday high (1575) to intraday low (839). Does it make sense for the market to react so abruptly over a short-term period of growth hickuping?

The basic rules are being violated because of…

1. huge amount of uncertainty
2. forced selling
3. frozen credit markets

All of which create huge discounts. But we can not ignore that stocks (as a piece of paper reflecting ownership of a company) has value.

as far as fighting the gorilla is concerned… we are always fighting the gorilla… the machine is moving :)

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Comment on I will NOT sell… by Engineer http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/10/10/i-will-not-sell/#comment-38205 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:36:08 +0000 http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/10/10/i-will-not-sell/#comment-38205 At what point do you start to think that perhaps the rules have changed. Well at least in the short term the rules have changed. Couldn't it be possible that this is a revolutionary shift in the market place. People realizing that growth can't continue forever and there has to be a downturn in the markets eventually. Sure in the long term it will be up, but I'm talking about now, talking about 3 months. Why fight the market looking at fundamentals when everybody has given up looking at them. Just sell and move to cash. My uncle once told me... You don't decide when you want to stop fighting a gorilla, the gorilla decides. At what point do you start to think that perhaps the rules have changed. Well at least in the short term the rules have changed. Couldn’t it be possible that this is a revolutionary shift in the market place. People realizing that growth can’t continue forever and there has to be a downturn in the markets eventually. Sure in the long term it will be up, but I’m talking about now, talking about 3 months. Why fight the market looking at fundamentals when everybody has given up looking at them. Just sell and move to cash.

My uncle once told me… You don’t decide when you want to stop fighting a gorilla, the gorilla decides.

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Comment on GOOG buys YouTube.com… about f… by PornoPaislinaNiz http://echotoall.com/blog/2006/10/09/goog-buys-youtubecom-about-f/#comment-38190 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:57:15 +0000 http://echotoall.com/blog/2006/10/09/goog-buys-youtubecom-about-f/#comment-38190 thanks :) youre idea is good! thanks :) youre idea is good!

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Comment on Market Thought… there is no logic within fear by Tom http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/10/09/market-thought-this-is-no-logic-with-fear/#comment-38125 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:13:54 +0000 http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/10/09/market-thought-this-is-no-logic-with-fear/#comment-38125 GS: OCT 08 puts look awesome...lot of premium GS: OCT 08 puts look awesome…lot of premium

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Comment on Dr. Howard Scher is SLIME! by Dan http://echotoall.com/blog/2007/05/30/dr-howard-scher-is-slime/#comment-38006 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 02:18:36 +0000 http://echotoall.com/blog/2007/05/30/dr-howard-scher-is-slime/#comment-38006 The Unreachable Availability of Provenge Terminal patients are those who are not expected to live due to usually illness such as advanced cancer. If the patient has 6 months or less to live, those patients are considered terminally ill. Regardless, if a patient is terminal, they are without a cure or a tolerable treatment for their illness. Since such patients will likely die in a short period of time, treatment options, even if unproven, are often desired by such patients. This is understandable, because at such a severe stage of illness, such as prostate cancer, possible extension of their lives with comfort is worth it to them, regardless of lack of evidence of proof of whatever treatment that may be advantageous to them regarding these issues. The FDA, however, claims authority on the treatment options of such patients, although that administration has proven itself over the years to be rather inadequate with its frequent drug recalls and black box warnings, and they do these things only under pressure from the public, usually. So, the FDA may not be an ideal judge regarding such issues as treatment options for very sick patients. Prostate cancer is rather frequent, with between 10 to 20 percent of men predicted to acquire the disease during their lifespan, resulting in about 30,000 deaths a year from this disease. Furthermore, there are different stages of prostate cancer, and the more severe the prostate cancer cases are, which is determined by such methods as bone scans and Gleason’s scores, the more difficult it is to treat such patients. Yet innovation still exists in medicine. A few years ago, a small Biotechnology company called Dendreon was working on a conceptually new treatment for the worst prostate cancer patients, and this treatment therapy created by Dendreon was named Provenge. Provenge is the first immunotherapy biologic treatment for the progressed prostate cancer patients. Usually, these patients are unresponsive to usual treatment methods for prostate cancer, and are left with chemotherapy as their only treatment option at such a traumatic stage of prostate cancer. Understandably, most patients at this stage refuse treatment entirely, largely due to the brutal side effects of such chemotherapy treatments as Taxodere. The immunotherapy method developed by Dendreon requires the removal of white blood cells of the diseased patient and, after altered, are re-injected into this patient now designed to attack within the diseased body what is called PAP, which is on prostate cancer cells only. This treatment requires only three such injections in a period of six weeks. This results in life extension twice that of chemotherapy treated prostate cancer patients of this severity, and without the concerning side effects of chemotherapy. The medical community and survivors of prostate cancer were elated and waited with great anticipation for access to this treatment method. Fortunately, as the years passed, Provenge, by 2007, had convinced others of its safety and efficacy in its benefit for severe prostate cancer patients. This caused great joy to such patients and their families. Perhaps greater elation was experienced by the caregivers and specialists of such a disease, such as Urologists and Oncologists who treat such patients. While Provenge was on fast track status at this time at the FDA, the FDA panel recommended with clarity the approval of Provenge based on its proven and substancial efficacy and safety demonstrated in its trials, as they announced in March of 2007. This was expected by many, as Provenge was given Fast Track status by the FDA because of the potential of this therapy for terminal patients. Now for the bad news: With great shock and surprise, the FDA agency rejected the approval of this great treatment for very sick patients due to, they said, ‘lack of data’ in May of 2007. This contradicts their favorable opinion of Provenge weeks before delivering this terrible news. Especially when one considers the FDA Commissioner is a prostate cancer survival himself! Many found this ruling completely unbelievable. Soon after this judgment was passed by the FDA, conflicts of interest were discovered by others. For example, a member of the FDA agency who was evaluating Provenge, Dr. Scher, was found to have a financial commitment to a future competitor of Provenge that was being produced by a company called Novacea, and this company had signed a co-promotion agreement with Schering to provide support for this similar prostate cancer drug treatment being developed by this company. Dr. Scher never disclosed this conflict during the approval process of Provenge. As it turns out, this anticipated prostate cancer drug made by Novacea was discovered to have serious flaws, and Schering pulled out of the agreement with Novacea. In addition to this incident and before May of 2007, baseless letters were anonymously delivered to the FDA stating negative qualities about Provenge that were without Merit and speculative claims about the treatment were fabricated in these letters, it is believed. Yet overall, the disapproval by the FDA of Provenge angered many, and a newly formed advocacy group called Care to Live filed a lawsuit against the FDA for their clear lack of protocol or knowledge about such complex treatment agents as provenge at the end of last year. Terminal patients, I surmise, desire comfort during their progressive disease that has placed them in the last chapter of their lives, and certainly should have a right to choose any treatment that possibly could benefit them. Because most are willing to assume any risks of unapproved, yet potentially beneficial treatments such as Provenge. Because they have a terminal illness, possible benefits clearly take priority over safety issues of unapproved treatments for them. The controversy could be concluded by a terminal patient signing a waiver of some sort, perhaps, stating that they are responsible for the consequences of an unapproved treatment regimen such as Provenge. Yet the FDA, with reckless disregard and overt harshness, denied what likely was a great treatment method for these very ill patients, so the FDA ultimately harmed others more by not approving Provenge, or offering any exceptions with such cases, which in this situation seems most rational, considering the available data with Provenge. The FDA does in fact presently have the ability to grant what is called conditional approval for such treatment methods as Provenge at this time, and why they have not remains completely unknown. What is known is that they are harming those they pledged to protect so long ago. So now the FDA appears to be a bought, corrupt, and incompetent administration without loyalty and dedication to the public and its health. This needs to be corrected in any way possible for the lives of others, regardless of thier present health state today. Because of the FDA's flaws in the past regarding drugs taken off the market along with increasing black box warnings of other drugs, which happens often with both, the individual should be the deciding factor in such matters of deciding thier treatment course along with thier health care provider, and not an unreliable Administration. “Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” --- Aldous Huxley Dan Abshear The Unreachable Availability of Provenge

Terminal patients are those who are not expected to live due to usually illness such as advanced cancer. If the patient has 6 months or less to live, those patients are considered terminally ill. Regardless, if a patient is terminal, they are without a cure or a tolerable treatment for their illness. Since such patients will likely die in a short period of time, treatment options, even if unproven, are often desired by such patients. This is understandable, because at such a severe stage of illness, such as prostate cancer, possible extension of their lives with comfort is worth it to them, regardless of lack of evidence of proof of whatever treatment that may be advantageous to them regarding these issues. The FDA, however, claims authority on the treatment options of such patients, although that administration has proven itself over the years to be rather inadequate with its frequent drug recalls and black box warnings, and they do these things only under pressure from the public, usually. So, the FDA may not be an ideal judge regarding such issues as treatment options for very sick patients.
Prostate cancer is rather frequent, with between 10 to 20 percent of men predicted to acquire the disease during their lifespan, resulting in about 30,000 deaths a year from this disease. Furthermore, there are different stages of prostate cancer, and the more severe the prostate cancer cases are, which is determined by such methods as bone scans and Gleason’s scores, the more difficult it is to treat such patients.
Yet innovation still exists in medicine. A few years ago, a small Biotechnology company called Dendreon was working on a conceptually new treatment for the worst prostate cancer patients, and this treatment therapy created by Dendreon was named Provenge. Provenge is the first immunotherapy biologic treatment for the progressed prostate cancer patients. Usually, these patients are unresponsive to usual treatment methods for prostate cancer, and are left with chemotherapy as their only treatment option at such a traumatic stage of prostate cancer. Understandably, most patients at this stage refuse treatment entirely, largely due to the brutal side effects of such chemotherapy treatments as Taxodere. The immunotherapy method developed by Dendreon requires the removal of white blood cells of the diseased patient and, after altered, are re-injected into this patient now designed to attack within the diseased body what is called PAP, which is on prostate cancer cells only. This treatment requires only three such injections in a period of six weeks. This results in life extension twice that of chemotherapy treated prostate cancer patients of this severity, and without the concerning side effects of chemotherapy. The medical community and survivors of prostate cancer were elated and waited with great anticipation for access to this treatment method.
Fortunately, as the years passed, Provenge, by 2007, had convinced others of its safety and efficacy in its benefit for severe prostate cancer patients. This caused great joy to such patients and their families. Perhaps greater elation was experienced by the caregivers and specialists of such a disease, such as Urologists and Oncologists who treat such patients. While Provenge was on fast track status at this time at the FDA, the FDA panel recommended with clarity the approval of Provenge based on its proven and substancial efficacy and safety demonstrated in its trials, as they announced in March of 2007. This was expected by many, as Provenge was given Fast Track status by the FDA because of the potential of this therapy for terminal patients.
Now for the bad news: With great shock and surprise, the FDA agency rejected the approval of this great treatment for very sick patients due to, they said, ‘lack of data’ in May of 2007. This contradicts their favorable opinion of Provenge weeks before delivering this terrible news. Especially when one considers the FDA Commissioner is a prostate cancer survival himself! Many found this ruling completely unbelievable.
Soon after this judgment was passed by the FDA, conflicts of interest were discovered by others. For example, a member of the FDA agency who was evaluating Provenge, Dr. Scher, was found to have a financial commitment to a future competitor of Provenge that was being produced by a company called Novacea, and this company had signed a co-promotion agreement with Schering to provide support for this similar prostate cancer drug treatment being developed by this company. Dr. Scher never disclosed this conflict during the approval process of Provenge. As it turns out, this anticipated prostate cancer drug made by Novacea was discovered to have serious flaws, and Schering pulled out of the agreement with Novacea. In addition to this incident and before May of 2007, baseless letters were anonymously delivered to the FDA stating negative qualities about Provenge that were without Merit and speculative claims about the treatment were fabricated in these letters, it is believed. Yet overall, the disapproval by the FDA of Provenge angered many, and a newly formed advocacy group called Care to Live filed a lawsuit against the FDA for their clear lack of protocol or knowledge about such complex treatment agents as provenge at the end of last year.
Terminal patients, I surmise, desire comfort during their progressive disease that has placed them in the last chapter of their lives, and certainly should have a right to choose any treatment that possibly could benefit them. Because most are willing to assume any risks of unapproved, yet potentially beneficial treatments such as Provenge. Because they have a terminal illness, possible benefits clearly take priority over safety issues of unapproved treatments for them. The controversy could be concluded by a terminal patient signing a waiver of some sort, perhaps, stating that they are responsible for the consequences of an unapproved treatment regimen such as Provenge. Yet the FDA, with reckless disregard and overt harshness, denied what likely was a great treatment method for these very ill patients, so the FDA ultimately harmed others more by not approving Provenge, or offering any exceptions with such cases, which in this situation seems most rational, considering the available data with Provenge.
The FDA does in fact presently have the ability to grant what is called conditional approval for such treatment methods as Provenge at this time, and why they have not remains completely unknown. What is known is that they are harming those they pledged to protect so long ago. So now the FDA appears to be a bought, corrupt, and incompetent administration without loyalty and dedication to the public and its health. This needs to be corrected in any way possible for the lives of others, regardless of thier present health state today. Because of the FDA’s flaws in the past regarding drugs taken off the market along with increasing black box warnings of other drugs, which happens often with both, the individual should be the deciding factor in such matters of deciding thier treatment course along with thier health care provider, and not an unreliable Administration.
“Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” — Aldous Huxley
Dan Abshear

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Comment on Market Thought… keep thinking by Administrator http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/10/04/market-thought-keep-thinking/#comment-37808 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:26:17 +0000 http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/10/04/market-thought-keep-thinking/#comment-37808 ur right mike, and my apologies to the confusion. i guess the best way to describe it is this... if i was a mutual fund manager, with deep pockets, i would have held those position I purcahsed, and averaged down. But since i was infront of the computer watching the action real time, the day trader came out in me, and forced me to unload to for capital preservation. I did not unload GE despite my belief that it can quickly touch 19 or 20 because of the dividend and how cheap it is. (because of the dividend I want to hold the common, and i will be covering with options) Fear is high, and sometimes (like friday) I get wrapped up in the fear myself. Irrespective of that fear, stocks like GE, MA, PBR and PWR are cheap. ur right mike, and my apologies to the confusion. i guess the best way to describe it is this… if i was a mutual fund manager, with deep pockets, i would have held those position I purcahsed, and averaged down. But since i was infront of the computer watching the action real time, the day trader came out in me, and forced me to unload to for capital preservation.

I did not unload GE despite my belief that it can quickly touch 19 or 20 because of the dividend and how cheap it is. (because of the dividend I want to hold the common, and i will be covering with options)

Fear is high, and sometimes (like friday) I get wrapped up in the fear myself. Irrespective of that fear, stocks like GE, MA, PBR and PWR are cheap.

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Comment on Market Thought… keep thinking by Mike http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/10/04/market-thought-keep-thinking/#comment-37791 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:30:52 +0000 http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/10/04/market-thought-keep-thinking/#comment-37791 I read your commentary with interest, but your actions in light of your commentary are somewhat confusing to me. You state today that stocks by most measures seem dirt cheap and the VIX action suggests a low point for stocks, but just yesterday you said you sold all your positions except GE. If we are at a low point for stocks, why would you not retain your stocks and be looking to buy others? Or if you're simply concerned about some near-term downside movement, perhaps buy a put option as a hedge? I read your commentary with interest, but your actions in light of your commentary are somewhat confusing to me. You state today that stocks by most measures seem dirt cheap and the VIX action suggests a low point for stocks, but just yesterday you said you sold all your positions except GE. If we are at a low point for stocks, why would you not retain your stocks and be looking to buy others? Or if you’re simply concerned about some near-term downside movement, perhaps buy a put option as a hedge?

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Comment on Market Thought… look out below by MinnesotaGopher http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/09/25/market-thought-look-out-below/#comment-37186 Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:36:01 +0000 http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/09/25/market-thought-look-out-below/#comment-37186 Im curious to see if this materializes. A bit dramatic? Im curious to see if this materializes. A bit dramatic?

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Comment on Market Thought… sad day by Administrator http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/09/20/market-thought-sad-day/#comment-36744 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:18:22 +0000 http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/09/20/market-thought-sad-day/#comment-36744 should be good... MSFT is inexpenvise, and that buyback will take away about 1.5 billion shares. I am cautious about the PC market after observing Dell's weak forecast and the IGW (semi etf) chart being really negative. I would rather see some indicator to strength within the PC sector before playing MSFT, but the 40b adds a great floor here. Even though I like MSFT, it is not volatile enough for me to trade it. should be good… MSFT is inexpenvise, and that buyback will take away about 1.5 billion shares. I am cautious about the PC market after observing Dell’s weak forecast and the IGW (semi etf) chart being really negative.

I would rather see some indicator to strength within the PC sector before playing MSFT, but the 40b adds a great floor here. Even though I like MSFT, it is not volatile enough for me to trade it.

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Comment on Market Thought… sad day by Tom http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/09/20/market-thought-sad-day/#comment-36737 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:40:14 +0000 http://echotoall.com/blog/2008/09/20/market-thought-sad-day/#comment-36737 MSFT announced hugh buy-back and dividend increase. Should be very good for the stock going forward. Do you plan to take this for a trade. MSFT announced hugh buy-back and dividend increase. Should be very good for the stock going forward. Do you plan to take this for a trade.

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